Tal Raviv is a PM at Riverside where he joined as its first PM. Over his 12-year career as an individual contributor, Tal has been an early PM at Patreon, AppsFlyer, and Wix, managing teams in consumer growth, developer API platforms, and pricing. He started his career by co-founding a profitable SaaS company and also volunteers as a surf instructor for people with disabilities. In our conversation, Tal shares:
• Why he has chosen to stay an individual contributor rather than moving into management
• The rise of “super ICs” and how companies can support this career path
• Advice for succeeding as a long-term IC product manager
• How he uses AI to enhance his productivity
• How to build self-reliant teams and make yourself redundant
• Lessons from failures
• Much more
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Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-super-ic-pm-tal-raviv
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• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/talsraviv/
• Maven Course: https://maven.com/tal-raviv/product-manager-productivity-system/
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Tal’s background
(02:24) Choosing to stay an IC project manager
(07:05) The value of IC roles
(08:31) Compensation and career path
(12:36) Advice for companies on creating space for ICs
(14:33) Leveraging AI for productivity
(22:44) Managing your time
(26:01) Product scrapbooking
(27:52) Cultivating self-reliant teams
(36:32) Tal’s Maven course: Build Your Personal PM Productivity System
(37:39) Contrarian opinions and insights
(44:32) Book smart vs. street smart decision-making
(52:51) There’s no right way to get things done
(57:03) Failure corner
(01:19:04) Lightning round
(01:26:50) Living through conflict
Referenced:
• Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us: https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1594484805
• Product management theater | Marty Cagan (Silicon Valley Product Group): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/product-management-theater-marty
• Riverside: https://riverside.fm/
• iMovie: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/imovie/id377298193
• Canva: https://www.canva.com/
• Lego Mindstorms: https://www.lego.com/en-us/themes/mindstorms
• Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-a-long-and-meaningful-career
• Notion: https://www.notion.so/
• Gong: https://www.gong.io/
• Loom: https://www.loom.com/
• Mixpanel: https://mixpanel.com/
• Amplitude: https://amplitude.com/
• Calendly: https://calendly.com/
• Fullstory: https://www.fullstory.com/
• Scrum Master: https://www.atlassian.com/agile/scrum/scrum-master
• Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
• Whisper: https://openai.com/index/whisper/
• Crafting a compelling product vision | Ebi Atawodi (YouTube, Netflix, Uber): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/crafting-a-compelling-product-vision
• Reforge: https://www.reforge.com/
• Guy Peled on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peledg/
• Please, Please Don’t A/B Test That: https://medium.com/@talraviv/please-please-dont-a-b-test-that-980a9630e4fb
• The Secret to a Great Planning Process — Lessons from Airbnb and Eventbrite: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-secret-to-a-great-planning-process
• Inside the 6 Hypotheses that Doubled Patreon’s Activation Success: https://brianbalfour.com/essays/patreon-onboarding-growth
• How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk: https://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Kids-Will-Listen/dp/1451663889/
• Never Split the Difference: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It: https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended/dp/0062407805
• Listen: Five Simple Tools to Meet Your Everyday Parenting Challenges: https://www.amazon.com/Listen-Simple-Everyday-Parenting-Challenges/dp/0997459301
• How embracing emotions will accelerate your career | Joe Hudson (executive coach, Art of Accomplishment): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/embracing-your-emotions-joe-hudson
• Ted Lasso on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso
• Pichilemu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pichilemu
• O’Neill Hyperfreak wetsuits: https://us.oneill.com/pages/mens-hyperfreak-series
• Venn diagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/C-QeXhPNPkx/
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